It's strange. Everyone who's had a child is an expert on parenting.
Yours is just one data point. Here's another: it's perfectly possible to actually trust teenagers without regarding them as savages, while still catching the bad stuff that inevitably happens.
Different cultures tend to raise their kids differently. Many North American disciplinary actions are downright illegal here. Our kids still turn out fine.
Oh, look! Another Hacker News pedant come to pick meaningless holes in someone's comment.
I didn't say I was an expert on parenting. Did I?
Did I also say that teenagers are always and everywhere uncivilized savages? No. I made one over-the-top statement equating teenagers with cavemen, so I guess that's worth pointing out because it obviously proves that my entire comment was wrong, especially since that one statement can't be applied universally across time and space. Jeez...
Look, I've seen more than a few reasonable teenagers, but that's only because I roll with orthodox Catholics who actually believe what the Catholic Church teaches (without whining about it), and believe it's important to teach their kids how to be civilized. It's noteworthy that those teenagers only have dumbphones, if they have a cellphone at all.
So what if different cultures raise their kids differently? How does that negate anything I said? The children of one culture are born just as uncivilized as the children of any other culture. Civilization comes only from hard work. If you're a parent, imparting civilization to the uncivilized requires the right tools. If you're ok with giving your kid a smartphone, then it makes sense to have a tool to reel them back in when they can't resist the urge to abuse the freedom you've given them.
So, go take your pedantic inability to reason clearly, and participate more fully in whatever culture of deficient civility into which you were unfortunate to be born. I'm sure it'll turn out fine.
"I've seen more than a few reasonable teenagers, but that's only because I roll with orthodox Catholics who actually believe what the Catholic Church teaches"
Today, like in the 1500s, Catholicism saving the world from the "uncivilized savages". Hilarious.
That's right. In all of history, the single most civilizing influence on the world has been the Catholic Church. Even with all the abuses and excesses, I don't think this can reasonably be denied.
Yours is just one data point. Here's another: it's perfectly possible to actually trust teenagers without regarding them as savages, while still catching the bad stuff that inevitably happens.
Different cultures tend to raise their kids differently. Many North American disciplinary actions are downright illegal here. Our kids still turn out fine.