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There are plenty. Hollywood has massive dominance in the international film industry as does the American music industry. The USA has spent a lot of time and money promoting its culture. It is partly a consequence of the Cold War.

But the endgoal is to produce a homogenised world culture. You can see this being pushed by groups such as FIFA and Global Citizen (the name isn't even subtle) in the last few weeks with the lead up to the World Cup, and the repeated use of platitudes like "we are one" and "unite for our future".





"we are one" is not equal to "we are exactly the same"

Honestly can't believe I'm out here defending FIFA for god's sake, but it's obvious that they mean everyone should be good to eachother even though we are all different. It has nothing to do with cultural colonisation.

There's a lot wrong with FIFA, but trying to get people to hate eachother a little less isn't one of them


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LGBT propaganda... Funny how people who have been gobbling up propaganda about something, always think "the other side" is the one producing the actual propaganda

And yes, i see the irony of this statement

But some dudes kissing in a movie is not propaganda


Isn’t whether or not something is propaganda determined by the intent of those producing or distributing it?

If the intent of someone including two men kissing in a movie is to promote approval of homosexual relationships, OR is to promote the idea that men kissing doesn’t imply homosexuality, then that’s propoganda, but if the intent is just “the movie sells better if there’s a scene pandering to yaoi fangirls”, or “the screenwriter found something that happened with two guys they know to be compelling”, then it isn’t propaganda,

right?


You're probably right, but my main point was that it's funny that people who have been spoon fed propaganda about something always think the opposite of what they now believe is the actual propaganda

Honestly, pretty impressive by the russian government how they are able to do that

Then again, in many cultures (even in more tolerant ones like here in the netherlands) there's always somewhere a latent hatred and/or disgust towards LGBT. So maybe it's nit that hard to bring that back to the surface after all


> But some dudes kissing in a movie is not propaganda

Overrepresentation in mass media is a form of propaganda.


Would you believe that in some countries it never happens at all! Overrepresentation compared to what?

So you believe in quotas in "mass media", so that homosexuals aren't over-represented?

Or you just think it's a conspiracy to turn everyone gay?

Trying to control the free market of ideas seems a bit oppressive.


Systematic overrepresentation in media is already a control. Which also make it oppressive.

OK so you think it's a conspiracy.

But how do you know it's "overrepresentation"? It's media not a strict reflection of population.

Anyway, so you don't like gay people, but tough luck. Just like you can like or dislike whoever you want, people can like and talk about whoever they want. Sorry to break it to you but its not a conspiracy it's just modern society.


Wow. Interesting. I just mentioned overrepresentation, which is a fact that even you can't deny, and you go to such lengths to frame me as a conspiracy theorist and gay hater. I can even read hate in your writing tone.

Why? What makes you so aggressive? What makes you hate someone who points out obvious facts? What is the reason for your denial and hate?


You're doing the old Soviet thing of accusing people of the thing you're doing. Did you use to live in that environment?

Everything you say is unfounded and makes little sense. You seem to be read things that are not there.

I'm just saying that what you think is an acceptable amount of gay "representation" does matter and that it merely reflects your own biases. Your views don't matter in this respect because if you live in a free country the media can "represent" anything it likes and if you don't like it you can turn it off. And complain about it I guess.

That's what it's all about freedom. Preserving freedom. Trying to take away other people's freedom to express themselves is not what its about.


Overrepresentation is when something appears in media way more often than in the real life.

Gay behaviour is overrepresented in the media.

You can frame it with Soviet union, freedom of any kind, human right, democracy, religion, right to consume or not. You can try to make it about me or you and call me whatever.

What you can't do is deny overrepresentation. Because it's the fact, whether you like it or not. And that's the only thing I said, everything else is your projection and false accusation.


You being uncomfortable with people different than you does not mean there's a conspiracy.

You can't notice that in the last 20 years it became obligatory. It is included in almost every movie and every book. It reminds me of Soviet times, when every book, including Sci-Fi about deep space exploration, should've devoted some pages to promoting ideas of communism.

And it wasn't "conspiracy". I doubt there ever was a requirement to do it. Simply, your book had less chance of publishing if you don't do it. I think it is the same in US an EU now: if you don't include 1-2 bits of propaganda or more, your book has less chances to be mentioned in the bestsellers section or something like that.




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