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That investment isn't worth it to just be ghosted


Agree. You need to see it from the other side. Most likely, they are receiving 100+ applications, so the chance that your application will be seen is too low.


This.

I also limit myself on how many applications I see in a day (no more than 20 on a busy day, 50 on a not so busy day) so that I give every resume a fair read. A team can only do so much in a day. It's disheartening when you see a blatant AI use (and it goes into the trash bin right away).


Do you have a technical background? 50 seems quite low for someone to get the gist of the resumes and have a sense of the applicants.

If recruiting departments really suffer at parsing about 50 apps per day per recruiter, I can see why this got so bad so quickly.


I think GP means they stop at this point to ensure that they are giving all of the resumes a pretty fair shake by being fresh.

Afaik, any kind of slush-pile reading (including grading, which is probably the best researched) tends to get less fair as the process wears on the reader.

GP isn't optimizing for finishing the pile, but for making the most of what's in it.


Yep. You got it.


I do. Credentials-wise I have BS in one of the STEM and currently enrolled in MS CS with intent to pursue PhD in Maths/CS. I have around 8 YoE and worked from Series B startups to IBs.

I want to give everyone a fair shake (including reading cover letters) and for me, resume fatigue sets in if I read more than 50.


I think you missed this part, emphasis mine:

I spend a week or so deeply researching where I want to work and figure out how to get there role-wise.

Figuring out how to get there means figuring out how not to get ghosted, not just blasting off a quick application and crossing fingers. I imagine that probably means reaching out to people in their network at the company, learning about their hiring practices and how people get hired there, etc.


When was the most recent time you tried this, and for what level of role was it? I believe this could absolutely be effective pre-2023, or for very high level roles. I don't think it's currently viable advice for ~Senior level engineers, who are currently competing against thousands of other applications, many of whom were generated specifically for the given role.


I’m not going to get into my specific work history in the spirit of trying not to put more metadata about myself out there, but I can confidently say referrals are still king and I have witnessed those results.

I have a hard time believing that the market is as dire as people say it is at least right now approaching 2025. I see peers who are getting laid off get back into jobs, it’s just taking a few months longer than it used to. It’s just not a magical hot job market like it used to be.

A good indicator is to look at Meta’s employee count. It’s down dramatically since 2022 but they still have more employees working for them than the last day of 2021.

https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/meta/employees/

Or look at layoffs.fyi, where layoffs are reported at their lowest level since early 2022.


Speaking as someone currently involved in hiring for Senior roles at my company: We have hundreds of resumes, most of which are garbage. We're not seeing a lot of evidence of large numbers of people working hard to tailor their resume to the role, so doing so would absolutely help you in our case.

Even more so, if we got a referral right now from within the company we'd absolutely skip them straight to the interviews. Dealing with resumes sucks right now as an employer, and we want to avoid that stage as much as you do.




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