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The EU expansion politics was a success. E.g. Poland was a great industry place for cheap labour, now it becomes a richer economy, they consume more expensive from Germany and France.

? Usually the clauses arent valid from the contracts and you can sue Microsoft on court. What did you expect?

" True but it also reflects that the EU has indeed destroyed most goodwill towards it in the last decade regarding most things digital. " And these criticism destroys any goodwill from me. These are non topics my among political diverse friends. Most people criticise the EU internet regulations are American cry babys. Their arguments are shallow, their knowledge about EU is low.

If your friends have never said “man I hate these cookie popups”, they sound like a highly selected group.

Don't be silly, the legislation doesn't state that websites have to show cookie popups. It's rather where the term malicious compliance enters the picture, a compliance incentivized by the financial interests of the biggest advertising businesses the world has ever seen.

Let’s accept for the sake of argument that all the cookie banners are malicious compliance. Fine. Then they should change the law to stop the malicious compliance! Regulation has an outcome nobody likes. Are you gonna wait for every company to stop being “malicious”? Or are you gonna fix the law?

The latter, obviously, and that is what's happening with the Digital Omnibus.

^ That, and lazy devs who prefer to add a one-line cookie banner js, than review if they need or even use tracking cookies.

To be fair, I don't remember people complaining about cookies. The question is fairly simple, etc. Meanwhile ads? They try to steal the attention. So yeah, lots of friends complain about internet ads, not so many about cookies. I'm EU based.

My friends / co worker are computer and non computer people, hobbys, cultural background. Maybe your friend group is highly selected. Which country are you from?

Degrowth was only popular in Germany, UK and Spain. https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/no-solid-scientific-basis-deg...

Germany and UK follow a the no growth and it is very unpopular. Spain's economy gives a shit and grows.


Spain's economy grows but unemployment is still a massive problem because the main industries are seasonal, low-paid agricultural and hospitality work. To switch to a high-tech, high value-add economy would requires deep changes that would be painful for many voters.

The current government still plans to close all the nuclear reactors, it's still hard to get permission for construction (leading to a massive housing crisis despite having a surplus of housing in 2007, before the crisis).

That said, degrowth only seems to be a popular view among the leftist elite and I'm sure that once the consequences start to bite (we had a blackout in Spain, the energy prices are incredibly high in the UK and Germany - leading to a loss of jobs as factories close) then the electorate will profoundly reject this ideology.


You seem somewhat confused about this issue. Degrowth has little to do with abstract economic numbers such as GDP, and precisely criticizes its very concept. Degrowth is an alternative to greenwashing, aka "green growth" destroying our planet in the name of saving it...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrowth


"Degrowth is an academic and social movement[1] aimed at the planned and democratic reduction of production and consumption as a solution to social-ecological crises.[2] "

Giving the first sentence this would lead to a smaller GDP. We see the results of a stagnating GDP in Germany and UK and democratically people don't like it.


"aybe annoying for some, but a need for others."

Who needs it? Russia? I guess Russia does not need war but it started it anyway.


you think only Russia does GPS jamming?

in this context we talk about Russia

The context of the article is GPS jamming across Europe. I'm sure the north-west Black Sea is part of Europe.

cool projects. bear in mind some languages like Spanish are spoken across different countries. German for example is spoken in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. Using the Germany flag is misleading.

Honestly Meta is just plain stupid. These formats are an informal way to avoid strong regulation but solve problems and used in many settings of govermental regulation as a first try. Snubbing them will increase the chance of hard regulation.

I guess Zucki, Meta and SV folks (proofed on HN itself) just drunk too much "EU is declining because of regulation" and it will end like Lightning and Apple.


Stupid how? There's nothing regulation-worthy about banning users who aren't in some legally binding contract that'd make the action a breach of terms.

You can't use Meta without agreeing to "some legally binding contract."

There's nothing in any of those contracts about guaranteeing users will always have access to the(ir?) accounts. Anything pro-user in them that's not also pro-company will have been mandated by law, and account access isn't.

Hmm if a company is so important, it needs to regulate on case basis and needs to open not just on their criteria. Thats the price a network has to pay.

The US is moving rapidly away from EU towards Asia. EU acts like they are driving this.

Asia will ignore US deals, especially on social media. Look at Australia are even more hawkish than EU. Japan and South Korea are more culturally close to China when it comes to social harmony and the will probably follow suit when it comes to be strict on social media even if they allow US media it will be by much stricter rules than US.

Japan and China go together like Nazi Germany and Israel


Japan is also already in the world's largest free trade agreement with the EU[0] and in a joint development program for a next generation fighter plane with Italy and the UK[1].

The US has squandered a massive amount of goodwill since the first Trump presidency.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan%E2%80%93European_Union_C...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Combat_Air_Programme


My mother once told me as she worked as a secretary in Communist Poland, she had access to MS DOS. I cant take her word as granted as she is not so technically literat but sometimes you see the spread of computers into the second world.

My grandfather-in-law still tells stories how he smuggled C64s into the GDR

You didn't need to 'smuggle' them, just let your western relatives bring them over the border, which was entirely legal (sending via postal service would have worked too, but I wouldn't have risked that tbh because all parcels from West into East were opened and sometimes content "mysteriously" disappeared).

The C64 wasn't affected by the COCOM embargo, so 'export' was legal from West Germany, and import into East Germany anyway. East German citizens who had access to D-Mark (again: western relatives were the key here) could also simply walk into an 'Intershop' and buy a Commodore or Atari 8-bitter. Finally there was also the so-called GENEX catalogue, which was a delivery service run by East Germany where West German citizens could directly buy both Eastern and Western products for hard currency and had them directly delivered to their East German relatives (including C64s):

https://www.spiegel.de/geschichte/genex-kataloge-der-sonderb...

16-bit computers were affected by the western COCOM embargo though. It was technically illegal to export a PC or even an Amiga from West Germany into East Germany. So if you wanted to bring an Amiga over the border that would technically be smuggling - in the sense of smuggling them out of West Germany, since that was the illegal part - I bet nobody gave a shit though since quite a few Amigas found their way into East Germany, they were just prohibitively expensive on the 'private market' (around 20..30k (East-) Mark, which was the equivalent of a higher end car - like a Lada 1500 - or about 3..4 years of a typical wage).


>The C64 wasn't affected by the COCOM embargo, so 'export' was legal

Only after 1985 https://repository.uclawsf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1... page 19 Relaxation of COCOM Controls:

"In December 1984 COCOM relaxed its controls on computer exports. 125 The Commerce Department issued new regulations on April 26, 1985,126 that reflected new COCOM policy. The regulations eliminated validated license requirements for certain low-level computers with processing data rates (PDRs) 127 of less than two Megabits per second and total internal storage of 1.1 Megabits or less 128 and related peripherals. Although exports of computers and related equipment generally require validated licenses, 129 personal computers such as Apple II, Commodore 64, and Radio Shack Model 100, which were no longer state-of-the-art, were excepted."


She's probably just telling you what she saw when the system booted up, it would say "MS-DOS [version number]".

Jumping in and most people in Germany wouldnt see UK as an American trojan hourse. I dont think anti American countries like France and Danemark have a problem with UK being in the EU per se.

I can see most people want that UK wouldnt just get special treatment any more.


Yes that was 2018. Things vastly deteriorated in the US.

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