This has less to do with Cursor and more to do with standard processes. Day to day use, your developers development environment should not have access to any data that comes under HIPAA (the one compliance framework I’m familiar with)
If your developer machines don’t have access to regulated data, neither will Cursor. As far as I know none of those compliance frameworks have anything to do with your code, it’s about accessing data and how you promote your code to production
I’ve never used cursor. But Claude Code gives you the option of using AWS Bedrock hosted models - including Anthropomorphic. You can sign a BAA with AWS. Notice this is using Anthropic models through an AWS account - not directly from Anthropic.
The ROI is from all of the junior developers you don’t have to hire to do the grunt work.
I work in consulting and I would have had to scope projects with myself as the lead and at least a couple of juniors to do the grunt work while I do some of the work myself and do the tech lead type work. Now I can do it all myself.
Well, in 2000, I lived in Atlanta with 4 years of experience. 2000 wasn’t bad outside of Silicon Valley. If you were an enterprise developer targeting banks, insurance companies in a 2nd tier city, there was no affect. I had no problem finding a job.
I also was looking for a job in 2008 - again in Atlanta, I was 34 and again had no trouble finding your regular old dev job.
The AI bubble busting means absolutely nothing to me as far as career prospects. While every project I do now is related to AI working in cloud consulting + app dev, AI is just another tool in my tool belt.
“All of the spending” means nothing to Amazon, Google, Meta, and Microsoft.
They all are spending out of free cash flow and the hardware they are buying have a high failure rate and will be worthless in 3 years anyway. That just means they won’t replenish the hardware.
For the most part, I don’t deal with VC funded unprofitable companies - see how the bubble busting didn’t affect me.
If Claude Code becomes more expensive - which I doubt, compute gets cheaper over time and if the bubble does burst, that means compute gets cheaper because of excessive capacity.
On the other hand, I don’t pay for Claude Code myself, if the company thinks it does add value, the company I work for will up my monthly allowance from $1000 a month. If I were paying myself, I would just buy a computer that could run a local model.
Absolutely no company to the first approximation wants to host their own apps and manage updates for a couple dosen different SaaS apps (the industry average).
At every step in the cyclical evolution of software as a business people have said the exact same thing: nobody is going to stop doing X for Y. This is always proven wrong even as people continue to advocate for X over Y as Y fully replaces X. Businesses will evaluate this in consideration of expenses and liabilities. Once the Y becomes cheaper than X then X is only retained for emotional reasons.
We’ve already been through this cycle before SaaS. Why would every company want to go back to the days where you had to have an IT department to manage your apps?
Real businesses aren’t going to over optimize on something that cost $10 per seat.
If it’s “always proven wrong “, is this going to be “The year of Linux on the Desktop”? Is “the iPad going to fail because it doesn’t run Flash?”? Are we going to start browsing the internet on our TVs using set top boxes to get on the “Information Super highway”?
Oh yeah and let’s not forget that the iPod had “less space than the Nomad and no wireless” and was “lame”.
Or don’t forget that Dropbox was going to fail because “For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software.”
I can go on about Dvorak’s comment in 1984 “The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a 'mouse'. There is no evidence that people want to use these things”
Or Michael Dell’s infamous “Apple should just shut down the company and give th money back to shareholders”
Remember that data/content is king as the paradigm of business on the web? Its where we have been since the late 90s. Its the advertising economy. Both business and individual consumers don't want to pay for it any more. Self-hosted applications with a cloud premium upgrade are the new business model. For example why bother with all the invasive nonsense of Facebook if a person can self-host something that works better and share it with their real life contacts at their discretion?
The IPod won because it had the Apple app store. People don't need the app store to acquire high quality content any more and they certainly don't want their content locked into the limitations of leased access to some distribution model.
Right, businesses don’t want to pay $10/seat for SaaS but they want to create server rooms in their offices and hire a bunch of IT people to support it?
> Self-hosted applications with a cloud premium upgrade are the new business model
That’s not happening for any company. Where pray tell are these companies “self hosting” and supporting their business that they are getting a better deal than their per seat licensing cost? Who is supporting their systems?
> For example why bother with all the invasive nonsense of Facebook if a person can self-host something that works better and share it with their real life contacts at their discretion?
So everyone is going to be a server admin and host software and set up their NAT correctly so they can access it via their home internet when their on their phones using their 30 Mpbd upload speeds from their cable modem?
Are people going to start running their own servers now?
> The IPod won because it had the Apple app store
That’s also not true. The iPod was released in 2001, the iTunes Music Store wasn’t released until 2003. As late as 2007 Steve Jobs said that only 5% of music on iPods came from iTunes in his famous “Thoughts on Music”
Well most people aren’t going to no more buy computers to run at home than they do run their own Plex media servers. Besides that, most people’s primary computer is a phone.
On the business side, to a first approximation, no one is running their own computers in their office. They are using either a Colo or cloud service.
Speaking of which, AI that they access through an API key is not a product that most people buy. They buy products that use AI - like ChatGPT. Speaking of which, open AI has no illusions about becoming profitable based on $20/month subscriptions or even lesser so advertising.
The money that AI companies make from selling API access directly (except maybe Anthropic via Claude Code) pales in comparison to what they make selling through cloud providers who then sell to businesses.
> I could see people buying a desktop they keep at home, and having all their personal inference running on that one machine. Or even having inference pools to distribute load among many people
Yes I’m sure my 80 year old mother who uses ChatGPT is going to get together with her sisters and buy computers that they can network together over their 30 Mbps uplink cable modem…
All of the major SaaS companies. No company wants to maintain a vibe coded in house SaaS product anymore than they wanted to maintain a Microsoft Access app. AI is a “sustaining innovation” for existing companies.
HackerNews has been saying, for years, that an idea isn't worth anything. Even before AI, there were ten people who could for every person who did release a SaaS side project or business.
The value is in being able to sell it, being able to offset responsibility, all that ancillary stuff, which AI can't do at the moment.
I pay for plenty of goods and services. Just not YouTube. As others have noted, YouTube premium makes ads go away, but none of the other engagement baiting and user disrespecting anti-patterns. As far as I'm concerned, Google is in adversarial relationship with its users, whether your paying or not.
I currently pay for YouTube premium but I'm strongly considering stopping again. For me it's a combination of prices creeping up (small part) and the worsening UX and engagement-bait (big part). It's the same reason I dropped Spotify a few years ago.
i dropped spotify because i saw how terrible the non paid version of spotify is between payments, and was offended at how much i felt they used my library to hold me hostage.
Im not interested in being held hostage to pay a company xx$ a month for literally my entire life. At least when a netflix subscription is over, its not crafting up ways to torture its users into feeling obligated to resubscribe. Not that i like the streaming video services much either...
I don’t know. But most of the time when I don’t like a service, I don’t use it. I know that’s a crazy idea. I find YouTube like everything Google does a piss poor user experience. I’m forced to only use it to watch official AWS videos and those don’t have ads.
No, but SponsorBlock[0] is fantastic for that. I even have it setup on my home server[1] so it skips sponsor segments on my Apple TV, which is where we watch most of our YouTube.
I pay for plenty of other media (music, games, sports, comedy, books) and even do some Patreon for a few podcasts and YT channels, but I refuse to directly support a publishing monopoly that has had an actively user-hostile interface for over a decade.
Yes I know that Google just reported YouTube’s revenue is larger than Netflix’s. But I really don’t find anything interesting on YouTube. Every time I try to find an interesting tutorial on for me AWS, if it isn’t produced by AWS itself, it’s usually subpar and I end up just paying for it on Udemy or using my company paid Pluralsight.
I find plenty of interesting videos, but I needed to slowly craft my following list.
I started with some CS lectures, and conference talks and it was alright, but something I reached for out of necessity.
Once I started watching videos out of curiosity I slowly ended up finding channels around my hobbies that filled my feed with pretty interesting stuff. There's good content out there beyond dense lectures, but also a lot of crap. I built my curated list of channels making videos worth watching and rarely watch something outside of those.
Similarly to music discovery, once you find what you like keep an eye on neighboring artists. I stay curious, but I'm quick to reject.
Also HN commenters: “I don’t want to pay for goods and services”
People became used to getting a thing for free then it slowly enshittified over time into the current blend of grift and bait. They also strongly promote via shorts the very things they discouraged because sex sells. Now they are promoting AI generated bait. As such they deserve any and all vitriol in my opinion. I personally would never pay for that hot mess.
I watch a few popular channels because I can but probably not much longer. Eventually I will just watch the videos people copy over to Rumble until that platform follows the grift patterns of YT. It won't be long.
With the change in culture here, especially in the last 2-3 years, HN might as well be called Reddit News now. So it's not surprising that most people aren't consistent with their principles.
Was HN known for consistency of principles before? I don’t remember that.
Whenever an online community is anthropomorphized as an individual, it looks hypocritical. The only groups that don’t look hypocritical are monocultural backwaters of groupthink, permabans, and self-editing.
If your developer machines don’t have access to regulated data, neither will Cursor. As far as I know none of those compliance frameworks have anything to do with your code, it’s about accessing data and how you promote your code to production
I’ve never used cursor. But Claude Code gives you the option of using AWS Bedrock hosted models - including Anthropomorphic. You can sign a BAA with AWS. Notice this is using Anthropic models through an AWS account - not directly from Anthropic.
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