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Jolla does have an arrangement with Sony, so there are a few other device options: https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Supported_Devices/

As i recall , they do not come preloaded and the usr has to do a song and dance to flash the ROM with the new OS. While also paying a separete license fee for the OS and updates.

Too much friction and limiting the potential - thats why i reiterate. The SailFishOS is a delight technically and aesthetically - the business side though needs a major overhaul.

Just thinking out loud , they could partner with someone likee huawei to preload for EU/rest of world customers that cannot use HarmonyOS outside CH. Or even one of the other smaller OEM with access to the deep tech ecosystem to give a prebuild/preloaded f;agship at a cost competitive price. Or do a Apple and auction search/maps defaults to keep BOM costs down and aim for widespread adoption.


they sell some preloaded xperias on their website, but i get the impression the only have a few at any given time because ive been checking every now and again and half the time they are sold out

> Alfred

Wasn't it Lucius Fox?


It was :) Morgan Freeman not Michael Caine.


I’d trust Morgan Freeman over Michael Caine any day.


Oh you’re night! I had Morgan Freeman’s face in my mind too.


same difference


A lot of phones from that era (and before) used to use the NetFront browser.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetFront


NetFront! That's the same. I was about to write a comment about it upthread but the only name I remembered was NetSurf which is a different browser so assumed I must have been misremembering.


> BBC 4 was axed a few years ago

No it was not. BBC Four is still going strong. It's great.


Ok, fine, they decided to axe broadcast services and move it to be online only - but this discussion is about broadcast TV.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61591674


They haven't moved it online. Find a TV and switch it on - BBC Four is still there, for now at least!

https://ukfree.tv/channels/all/Freeview


I've noticed this a lot with anti-BBC folks. They have some ideological issue with it but that isn't a popular position so they go for more niche arguments like "The entire historical catalogue isn't fully available to watch on demand" or "They axed BBC <insert number> from broadcast". Arguments they don't actually care about. It's just a way to snipe at the BBC.

As you've pointed out, if someone loves being able to watch BBC Four on broadcast TV, they're not going to be complaining about it's non existent axing.


I’m very pro BBC - but they reached their apogee in the early 2000s and have been in a state of steady decline since.


Yet you know nothing about it.


The problem is that BBC Four now only shows archive material (with occasional exceptions as "overflow capacity" from sports events etc.) whereas they used to commission their own documentaries.


> Journalism. BBC.

BBC Travel tells awe-inspiring, immersive travel stories to curious, passionate readers who want to learn about the world as much as they want to travel there.



> Nokia already had some "little smart" phones on the market already.

So did other hardware/software vendors, and many of them were a lot smarter than the iPhone.




I wish you were right, but that is not the case, sadly. I could give you several examples but here's one: there was a comment on HN a little while ago [1] about a spammer by the name of whitehallmedia. Every single email they send has an unsubscribe link. Clicking it (I used a test email account.) does not have the effect that one might expect.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30405503


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