I believe that many of those saying that they "never write code anymore" or are experiencing "10x productivity," are heavily underestimating (or outright misrepresenting) how much they are guiding the model, and ignoring everything else that goes into shipping fit for purpose software. I frequently see zero measurements or factual arguments supplied to support such claims. I also see many people say that they are "vibe coding," when they are almost certainly reviewing, editing, or otherwise steering the output.

I wonder why there is such a mad dash to trump up the capabilities of coding agents. And why such loose terminology and lack of rigor? I thought programmers were supposed to be rational people (har har!)

We're keeping this honest and chill, no worries.

What is "most of that "?

Why did you feel the need to produce so much detail about a single category of tests?

Show me the incentive and I'll show you the outcome.

Anthropic is unable to contribute to Zig due to new AI policy, Bun has to maintain a fork of Zig, the lead developer decided "what if I try Rust? can the model do this for me in a meaningful way?" is that so hard to believe? I've done it with Claude before this story was blown out of proportion. It's basically one of the strengths of language models. If you frequent any reverse engineering communities, a lot of breakthroughs are coming from people having Claude disassemble things and translate it to either specs of raw source files in a new language, to the point that it compiles.

So from the context of someone who has never done this with Claude, or GPT, or any other model, I guess I could see how this would smell like a marketing stunt, but Anthropic already has marketing videos for this sort of thing on their YouTube as of last year. They have a video of Claude going through legacy COBOL code and modernizing it. Whereas all of you guys are giving me "trust me bro" as your only evidence.

To be fair, nothing about Zig's policy prevents Anthropic from contributing. They would just have to write the code by hand like all the other contributors. Presumably those skills haven't completely atrophied.

There is a principle in criminal law called Blackstone's Ratio:

"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.”

Does this fit into your conception of justice? Why or why not?