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Good. I like having distinct nation states with different cultures and ethnicity instead of bland homogenized globalized grayness - the thing that could be seen in every mall in a city that has international airport. From Jakarta trough Kenya, Berlin and NY - it is all the same. There should be breaks on the whole immigration and asylum things.

Not quite. We regulate driving not drinking. The licence comes with strings attached. You don't take teen exam to become teen.

The point is the enforcement/adherence part. They are saying “people do it anyway, therefore we shouldn’t have the law.“ What you are arguing is actually more valid than their argument.

> They are saying “people do it anyway, therefore we shouldn’t have the law.

They, more precisely I, was not making such an argument, as I already explained in another comment.


That’s how it read. Which is what my previous comment responded to. This is getting kind of silly and the tone is not necessary. I think maybe it’s better for us both to move on.

> That’s how it read. Which is what my previous comment responded to.

My problem with your previous comment is that it was written after my clarificatory reply to you, and indeed after your reply to that, so you obviously read my clarificatory reply, but instead of revising your initial interpretation based on my clarification, you chose, for whatever reason, to repeat the initial misinterpretation.


This is just called being teenager in the Balkans. Eventually we turn out fine.

Did you consider that this might be part of why Balkans are so far behind the rest of Europe?

No we are behind because our development was stunted by 45 years of socialism and 35 years of wild corruption.

Socialism... you probably mean communism, but OK. I agree.

The wild corruption... no. That wasn't externally imposed on you/us. Estonia, Letonia, Poland, Czechoslovakia started the race to improve themselves at the same time, and they're far ahead now.


In which case your original question doesn't make sense. The annual alcohol consumption in those countries is around 11 litres of pure alcohol per person. The only Balkan country coming close to that is Bulgaria.

I couldn't find alcohol quantity consumption statistics for teenagers. Got any links for your data?

I found data on self-reported frequency of alcohol consumtion for teenagers and the results mostly sustain my opinion.

For example, "every week" reported consumption: Netherlands (58.9%, top of the list), Greece (39.8%), Czechia (23.5%), Croatia (21.9%), Bulgaria (20%), Poland (11.7%), Slovakia (10.3%), Estonia (10%), Romania (8.4%), Latvia (4.4%), Lithuania (3%), which proves my point...

But then, "not in the last year" reported consumption: Lithuania (51.7% top of the list), Romania (49.1%, second, but I highly doubt this data, I live here and I know better), Bulgaria (46.1%, third place), Slovakia and Croatia (35.2%), Latvia (33.8%), Poland (30.6%), Czechia (20.2%), Estonia (19.6%), Slovenia (18.1%), which is mixed and doesn't prove anything. It is my impression that "not in the last year" category includes most of the liars and is not to be trusted.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/hlth_ehis_al1... (you need to manually select age class)


Banning children from drinking never really made much sense. A glass of wine or beer for kids in their early teens was very normal in Europe until recently (and still unofficially is) and we have not turned into hellhole. The temperance movement is/was uniquely American stupidity.

We saw how NK materiel performed in Ukraine. Poorly.

Being able to shove 5 inch diameter dildo 12 inches up your rectum is extraordinary ability no matter how you slice and dice it. Useless - sure.

If you slice and dice it, it’s not 5 inch or 12 inch.

Sorry couldn’t help


The problem with the date format is that the US one absolutely totally insane. Whenever you use something ordered you have to choose ordering. For date US choose the absurd kind. Y-d-m should never have been used. Remove that and around 90% of the string based format problems disappear.

I live in Australia and we have d-m-Y, and even I would say just use ISO 8601. Just use the standard, please, pretty please with a cherry on top.

Just a little more and we will be at rounding error levels.

But current ram prices are doing a lot of linux evangelization despite the best efforts of the linux community to deter newcomers. I was able to stretch my 64GB quite a bit more on linux than on windows. And yes - I know about the different commit strategies on windows and linux. It's not that - is just uses less ram and that's it.


We haven't had a person witnessing technological decline in their lifetime for probably 400 years or so. It is not surprising that it is a conceptual blind spot, especially for quacks.

>Linux is one of the last strong defenses for the idea that people should control the computers they own.

Please run Kate/Kwrite as root and then we will talk on the topic. Or pipe password to ssh


That's the good thing with open source. You can theoretically fork it and remove what prevents you from using Kate as root.

Sure. But the malaise of smug people taking decisions that are outside of the scope of the software is creeping into linux too. It is up to me decide what is secure, not them.

It's smug people telling other people what to do all the way down!

You dont have to use that software. Who even would? You're an adult, presumably, so use vim.

ed is the standard text editor.

Kate/Kwrite will ask to escalate to root if permissions are not sufficient. If it's not available to you, that's because your distro patched it out.

For ssh - sshpass.


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