Almost none of the parent’s bullet points are solved by building on the Moon instead of in Earth orbit.
The energy demands of getting to the 240k mile Moon are IMMENSE compared to 100 mile orbit.
Ultimately, when comparing the 3 general locations, Earth is still BY FAR the most hospitable and affordable location until some manufacturing innovations drop costs by orders of magnitude. But those manufacturing improvements have to be made in the same jurisdiction that SpaceXAI is trying to avoid building data centers in.
This whole things screams a solution in search of a problem. We have to solve the traditional data center issues (power supply, temperature, hazard resilience, etc) wherever the data centers are, whether on the ground or in space. None of these are solved for the theoretical space data centers, but they are all already solved for terrestrial data centers.
But none of those are usable, right? It will take decades of work at least to get a commercial grade mining operation going and even then the iron, titanium, aluminum would need to be fashioned...
Ah, I see the idea now. It is to get people to talk about robotics and how robots will be able to do all this on the moon or wherever.
That's a hard problem to solve. Invest enough in solving that problem and you might get the ability to manufacture a radiator out of it, but you're still going to have to transport the majority of your datacenter to the moon. That probably works out more expensive than launching the whole thing to LEO
Sounds more difficult. Not only is the moon further, you also need to use more fuel to land on it and you also have fine, abrasive dust to deal with. There’s no wind of course, but surely material will be stirred up and resettle based on all the landing activity.
And it’s still a vacuum with many of the same cooling issues. I suppose one upside is you could use the moon itself as a heat sink (maybe).
And 2.5s is best case. Signal strength issues, antenna alignment issues, and all sorts of unknown unknowns conspire to make high-integrity/high-throughput digital signal transmissions from a moon-based compute system have a latency much worse than that on average.
Yeah, carrying stuff 380k km and still deploying in vacuum (and super dusty ground) doesn't solve anything but adds cost and overhead. One day maybe, but not these next decades nor probably this century.
Still a vacuum so the same heat dissipation issues, adding to it that the lunar dust makes solar panels less usable, and the lunar surface on the solar side gets really hot.
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English is unusual in that we have both Germanic "weld" and Latinate "solder" and they've acquired different meanings. Spanish (and other Romance languages) use the term "solder" (soldado) for both.
As an aside: Chinese also uses the same term for both (焊接), and the standard English translation is "welding". This can lead to some confusion when Chinese manufacturers start talking about e.g. "surface-mount welding". :)
Interesting. In dutch we use 'solderen' vs 'lassen', in German they use 'schweizen' and 'loten'.
English has a third term like that as well called 'brazing', then there is silver solder (a high temperature version of soldering), in dutch we'd call that 'hardsolderen', whereas what the English call brazing we call oxy-acetyleen lassen (which is more of a process name by virtue of naming the ingredients).
Soldadura autogeno and Soldadura en el arco (sp?) are what I think the modifiers used in Spanish to indicate brazing and (arc) welding.
Ah yes, you are right! I was going by ear, rather than by the written version, in fact I can't recall seeing it written. German is a language that I will happily use but don't ask me to write a letter in it, you'll probably need exponential notation to represent the number of errors.
"According to Scott, Mafia-style protection rackets compelled people to produce grain."
James Scott—an anarchist—lays the point bare: the state functions much like an aged, institutionalized mafia. A stationary bandit, not fundamentally different from the predatory groups it claims to suppress.
> the state functions much like an aged, institutionalized mafia
Which happens to prevent immature, dumb and cruel mafias from taking over, the latter are the wet dream of Anarchists, that's why they hate governments.
> not fundamentally different from the predatory groups it claims to suppress
"Fundamentality" is in the eye of the beholder. The objective qualitative and quantitative differences are enormous however, the rest is mud in the eyes.
>Which happens to prevent immature, dumb and cruel mafias from taking over, the latter are the wet dream of Anarchists, that's why they hate governments.
No, they hate governments because they think they’re a kind of mafia. Which anarchist likes cruel mafias?
Those anarchists who aren't dumb must like cruel mafias, this is a conclusion I reach by implication, not by their admission.
Anarchist's believes exclude or at least severely limit the state as a force that can prevent warlords, gangs and mob rule which inevitably arise in any power vacuum.
Ergo, those anarchists who aren't dumb, understand the above and by virtue of continuing to promote anarchy they prove that they like the inevitable result of their political program.
I get the sense smart anarchists don’t want no organization, but organization with borderline zero coercion, and they’ve got complicated ways they imagine that might be possible. I also think many consider an absence of coercion the aim, but don’t feel it can be reached; rather, we should approach it asymptotically. I’ve heard some say in response to the warlord point that an “anarchist society” (if such a thing could exist) would police the warlord, but through the spontaneous action of its participants, not with a centralized hierarchy+bureaucracy. Can you point to any specific anarchists as counterexamples?
That’s just a restatement of the original argument
>Anarchist's believes exclude or at least severely limit the state as a force that can prevent warlords, gangs and mob rule which inevitably arise in any power vacuum.
Capitalism will sell you guns and crosses, it depends on what people demand. If you go to Italy there are no mc donald's. It's a cultural issue, not a problem of the the economic system.
But there was. Just didn't get enough customers. So they bailed out :-)
That aside, in the context of healthyness, one has to wonder if Pizza as such is good for you, no matter how and with which ingredients it is prepared, if eaten too often?
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