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I don't necessarily disagree, but there's a certain irony in presenting a claim of "how things are these days" in such a matter-of-fact way. I certainly wouldn't know how to refute your statement in a sufficiently short way. Thus, is it the presentation of claims that is the issue, or is it their content? Or both? I struggle with avoiding hypocrisy when trying to pinpoint the underlying problem.


Well somebody could try to do a representative study, but this is a HN comment, not a scientific publication.

I could also try to deconstruct some of the common complex-to-refute arguments, but I'm afraid the message would get lost in the following controversy.

What I'm saying is my perceptions following experiences I have had myself.

I suppose one could disagree with me by showing counterexamples of generally recognized public arguments for this and that and how they can be refuted simply. You have a point though. I'm not sure how I could avoid that criticism and still make an effective argument.


> I could also try to deconstruct some of the common complex-to-refute arguments, but I'm afraid the message would get lost in the following controversy.

That would be quite interesting to read nonetheless, if you’re willing to do so.




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